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Steam Locomotives of the Paris-Orléans and the French Southern Railway (PO/Midi)[Inhalt]
Paris-Orléans No. 3701 to 3731
French State Railway 4-231 F
France | 1929
31 produced
Patrick Bernard

In 1929, André Chapelon used all the knowledge he had acquired up to this point to fundamentally rebuild Paris-Orléans Pacific No. 3566, built in 1912. The result was almost twice the power with the same coal consumption. Because of this success, the 3501 to 3520 series locomotives were also rebuilt in 1932. Ten more followed in 1934.

The measures included thicker steam pipes, thermic siphons, a new valve gear and an increase in superheating from around 300 to 410 degrees Celsius. In addition, an ACFI feedwater heater and a double Kylchap blast pipe were installed.

The indicated power achieved through the rebuild was up to 3,700 hp for a short time or 2,800 hp permanently on the draw bar. The maximum speed of 120 km/h (75 mph) permitted by the PO could be maintained permanently with an express train weighing more than 650 tonnes on gradients of 0.3 percent. Accordingly, test runs on a topographically demanding line resulted in an average speed of 115 km/h, since the speed never dropped significantly.

These successes also brought the Nord and the Est to order the same locomotives. A total of about 100 locomotives were created, which were either rebuilt from old ones or built from scratch. These all came from the PO works in Tours and were therefore called “Reines de Tours” (Queens of Tours). When the SNCF was founded, the locomotives were assigned to the 4-231 F series. They were last used in 1967.

General
Built1929, 1932, 1934
ManufacturerTours
Axle config4-6-2 (Pacific) 
Gauge4 ft 8 1/2 in (Standard gauge)
Dimensions and Weights
Length77 ft 6 7/16 in
Length loco44 ft 11 3/8 in
Service weight224,430 lbs
Adhesive weight126,347 lbs
Axle load42,119 lbs
Fuel capacitycoal
Boiler
Grate area46.6 sq ft
Firebox area192.9 sq ft
Tube heating area1,950.8 sq ft
Evaporative heating area2,143.7 sq ft
Superheater area914.3 sq ft
Total heating area3,058 sq ft
Power Plant
Driver diameter76.8 in
Boiler pressure247 psi
Expansion typecompound
Cylindersfour, HP: 16 9/16 x 25 9/16 in
and LP: 25 9/16 x 27 3/16 in
Power
Power sourcesteam
Indicated power3,648 hp (2,720 kW)
Optimal speed85 mph
Top speed81 mph
Starting effort27,422 lbf
with start valve32,906 lbf
Calculated Values
steam locomotive
express
De Glehn compound
André Chapelon
last changed: 04/2023
Paris-Orléans No. 4201 to 4370
French State Railway 230 G 201 to 264 and 312 to 370, 230 K 401 to 451
France | 1915
170 produced
230 G 201 to 264 and 312 to 370, 230 K 401 to 451
230 G 201 to 264 and 312 to 370, 230 K 401 to 451
Yann Caradec

The ten-wheelers with the numbers 4201 to 4370 were built for the Paris-Orléans from 1915 onwards for express, passenger and freight trains. During the First World War, some of the locomotives were built by North British in Scotland and a total of 170 had been built by 1922. They shared the boiler and cylinders with other ten-wheelers and with the 2-8-2T tank locomotives of the series 5301.

In 1924 and 1925, 21 were sold to Morocco. From 1929 onwards, the remaining ones received smoke deflectors after tests by André Chapelon. When the SNCF was founded in 1938, the locomotives that came directly from the PO were given the designation 230 G and those that had since gone to the État were given the designation 230 K. In 1947 and 1948, 14 locomotives that were used in wooded areas got oil firing. They were retired until 1970 and the 230 G 352 and 353 are still preserved today. The 353 could be seen in many films since the seventies.

General
Built1915-1922
ManufacturerBâtignolles-Châtillon, SACM, North British
Axle config4-6-0 (Ten-wheeler) 
Gauge4 ft 8 1/2 in (Standard gauge)
Dimensions and Weights
Length54 ft 10 3/4 in
Length loco37 ft 6 3/8 in
Wheelbase25 ft 3 1/8 in
Rigid wheelbase12 ft 9 9/16 in
Service weight149,473 lbs
Adhesive weight107,145 lbs
Total weight237,438 lbs
Axle load35,715 lbs
Water capacity4,491 us gal
Fuel capacity8,818 lbs (coal)
Boiler
Grate area29.4 sq ft
Firebox area155 sq ft
Tube heating area1,430.5 sq ft
Evaporative heating area1,585.5 sq ft
Superheater area399.1 sq ft
Total heating area1,984.6 sq ft
Power Plant
Driver diameter68.9 in
Boiler pressure188 psi
Expansion typesimple
Cylinderstwo, 19 11/16 x 25 9/16 in
Power
Power sourcesteam
Estimated power1,207 hp (900 kW)
Optimal speed33 mph
Top speed62 mph
Starting effort23,061 lbf
Calculated Values
steam locomotive
passenger
last changed: 11/2023
Paris-Orléans No. 4501 to 4600
French State Railway 4-231 A
France | 1907
100 produced
flickr/Historical Railway Images

Around 1905, the PO was looking for more powerful express locomotives, since the existing 4-6-0 locomotives of series 4001 to 4084 had reached their limits. The solution was the 4-6-2 wheel arrangement, also known as “Pacific”. This was the first Pacific in Europe to be used on main lines.

No. 4546 built by ALCO at the Cité du Train in Mulhouse
No. 4546 built by ALCO at the Cité du Train in Mulhouse
Hugh Llewelyn

With the additional trailing axle, it was possible to install a larger firebox with a grate area of more than four square meters. In order not to shift the center of gravity too far back and thus away from the driving axles, the firebox had a trapezoidal layout. Since the front part was narrower, it could be drawn in between the wheels of the rear driving axle. Additionally, the firebox was of the Belpaire type to create a larger direct heating surface

View of the boiler with the special shape of the firebox
View of the boiler with the special shape of the firebox
Railway and Locomotive Engineering, September 1908

The power plant was of the Du Bousquet-De Glehn type, i.e. a four-cylinder compound engine with outer high-pressure cylinders that acted on the second driving axle and inner low-pressure cylinders that acted on the first driving axle. The driving wheels had a diameter of only 1,850 mm in order to be able to maintain a high average speed even on hilly routes. This was primarily the line from Limoges to Toulouse, which had gradients of up to 1.05 percent. Later, the locomotives with the numbers 3501 to 3589 were developed, in which the driving wheels were 10 cm larger and intended for flatter lines.

The first 40 examples were built by SACM and Hanomag from 1907 and still worked with saturated steam. On the relatively flat line between Paris and Les Aubrais, they reached an average speed of 88 to 95 km/h with a trailing load of 360 tonnes. From 1908, 30 other very similar locomotives were built by ALCO in the USA. From 1910, the last 30 that were made by the SFCM followed. From the factory they had a superheater and an enlarged diameter for the high-pressure cylinders.

Between 1932 and 1934, André Chapelon rebuilt twelve locomotives to numbers 4701 to 4712, which had a 4-8-0 wheel arrangement and delivered more than 4,000 hp. Another 25 4-8-0 locomotives followed in 1940 and 1941, which the SNCF designated as 240 P 1 to 25. The non-rebuilt locomotives received innovations such as Kylchap exhaust systems, superheatersfeedwater heaters or smoke deflectors during their service life. They became the 4-231 A 501 to 600 on the SNCF and were retired by 1954.

Variant4501-45404541-45704571-4600
General
Built1907-19081908-19091910-1914
ManufacturerSACM, HanomagALCOSFCM
Axle config4-6-2 (Pacific) 
Gauge4 ft 8 1/2 in (Standard gauge)
Dimensions and Weights
Length68 ft 2 5/16 in72 ft 8 13/16 in
Length loco43 ft 11 3/4 in
Wheelbase34 ft 5 3/8 in
Rigid wheelbase12 ft 9 9/16 in
Empty weight179,015 lbs
Service weight199,298 lbs195,001 lbs203,266 lbs
Adhesive weight115,302 lbs121,999 lbs116,073 lbs
Total weight300,269 lbs294,802 lbs305,450 lbs
Water capacity5,283 us gal
Fuel capacity13,228 lbs (coal)
Boiler
Grate area46 sq ft
Firebox area184.5 sq ft184.8 sq ft165.4 sq ft
Tube heating area2,863.5 sq ft2,864.3 sq ft2,105.4 sq ft
Evaporative heating area3,048 sq ft3,049.1 sq ft2,270.9 sq ft
Superheater area683.5 sq ft
Total heating area3,048 sq ft3,049.1 sq ft2,954.4 sq ft
Variant4501-45404541-45704571-4600
Power Plant
Driver diameter72.8 in
Boiler pressure232 psi
Expansion typecompound
Cylindersfour, HP: 15 3/8 x 25 9/16 in
and LP: 25 3/16 x 25 9/16 in
four, HP: 16 9/16 x 25 9/16 in
and LP: 25 3/16 x 25 9/16 in
Power
Power sourcesteam
Estimated power1,743 hp (1,300 kW)2,146 hp (1,600 kW)
Optimal speed47 mph52 mph
Top speed75 mph
Starting effort23,833 lbf26,494 lbf
with start valve28,600 lbf31,793 lbf
Calculated Values
steam locomotive
express
De Glehn compound
last changed: 06/2022
Paris-Orléans No. 5301 to 5490
French State Railway 4-141 TA
France | 1911
190 produced
Locomotive Magazine, April 1917

In 1911, the PO ordered 2-8-2T tank locomotives from SLM in Switzerland for the transport of freight trains, but also passenger trains, on the steep lines in the Massif Central. They were based on a locomotive that had already been built for the Thunerseebahn in 1908. Further batches were supplied by French manufacturers and North British.

A special feature for locomotives with this wheel arrangement was the drive on the second coupled axle. In order to be able to run through small curve radii, the first and last driving axles were combined with the neighboring carrying axle to form a Zara bogie. This resulted in a fixed wheelbase of just 1,500 mm. The blastpipe consisted of a variable cone and a three-fold cloverleaf nozzle.

They were able to pull a 200-tonne train at 30 km/h on a 3.5 percent ramp. On the flat they reached their top speed of 70 km/h with up to 1,500 tonnes. The special shape of the coal bunker earned the locomotives the nickname “boat butt”.

Between 1924 and 1929, 31 locomotives were transferred to Morocco. The PO rebuilt all of its locomotives to a Kylchap exhaust system. Some later received Worthington feed water heaters, and most of them also had their boiler pressure increased to 13 bars. At the SNCF they were also used far away from the Massif Central and were designated 4-141 TA. The last machine was retired in May 1970.

Variant5301-5380, 5411-54905381-5410
General
Built1911-1922
ManufacturerSLM, Fives-Lille, Bâtignolles-Châtillon, North British, Schneider
Axle config2-8-2T (Mikado) 
Gauge4 ft 8 1/2 in (Standard gauge)
Dimensions and Weights
Length44 ft 1 1/2 in
Wheelbase31 ft 9 7/8 in
Rigid wheelbase4 ft 11 1/16 in
Empty weight161,378 lbs
Service weight204,148 lbs
Adhesive weight148,591 lbs
Axle load39,463 lbs
Water capacity2,642 us gal
Fuel capacity12,125 lbs (coal)
Boiler
Grate area29.5 sq ft29.4 sq ft
Firebox area155.5 sq ft
Tube heating area2,001.4 sq ft1,854.6 sq ft
Evaporative heating area2,157 sq ft2,010.2 sq ft
Superheater area399 sq ft441.3 sq ft
Total heating area2,556 sq ft2,451.5 sq ft
Variant5301-5380, 5411-54905381-5410
Power Plant
Driver diameter55.1 in
Boiler pressure174 psi188 psi
Expansion typesimple
Cylinderstwo, 23 5/8 x 25 9/16 in
Power
Power sourcesteam
Estimated power1,073 hp (800 kW)1,207 hp (900 kW)
Optimal speed18 mph19 mph
Top speed43 mph
Starting effort38,317 lbf41,510 lbf
Calculated Values
steam locomotive
freight
passenger
tank locomotive
last changed: 12/2023
Paris-Orléans No. 6001 to 6070
French State Railway 4-150 A 1 to 70
France | 1909
70 produced
Locomotive Magazine, October 1910

Beginning in 1909, the Paris-Orléans procured a series of 2-10-0 freight locomotives which had been developed from the Pacific express locomotives of the series 4501 to 4600. The four-cylinder compound engine was also adopted from these, which ensured exceptional performance when used in a heavy freight locomotive. The boiler could not be taken over unchanged because the firebox would not have fitted completely between the coupling wheels. However, the slightly shorter boiler also has a trapezoidal firebox, which in this case starts above the fifth coupled axle and then tapers to fit with the lower front end between the wheels of the fourth coupled axle

Schematical drawing with dimensions
Schematical drawing with dimensions
Locomotive Magazine, October 1910

They were stationed around the Massif Central and hauled freight trains of up to 1,200 tonnes. The performance profile still permitted around 750 tonnes at 20 km/h on a gradient of one percent. Although they were not actually designed for this role, they even pulled express trains on the demanding mountain routes. A total of 70 examples were built in three batches by different manufacturers until 1913. Initially, small two-axle models were used as tenders, which offered space for just twelve cubic meters of water and weighed less than 30 tonnes when loaded. Apparently, this had been considered sufficient, since there was no need to run long distances non-stop. In the second and third series, three-axle tenders with a water capacity of 20 cubic meters were used.

The 150 6065 is now standing at a roundabout in Coulounieix-Chamiers
The 150 6065 is now standing at a roundabout in Coulounieix-Chamiers
Père Igor

The first production locomoties were not without problems, but with the exception of the occasional overheated axle bearing, all problems could be eliminated. They were later modernized, starting with cloverleaf-shaped blast pipes in the 1920s. From 1929, eleven engines were fitted with even more efficient Kylchap induced draft systems, which reduced consumption, and from 1930 a total of 30 units were fitted with different superheaters. André Chapelon used one locomotive as the basis for his six-cylinder locomotive 160 A 1. When the SNCF was founded, the remaining engines were redesignated as the 4-150 A 1 to 70. As early as 1940, the electrification of some routes in the Massif Central meant that these steam locomotives were no longer needed there and were relocated. After the Second World War, despite their age, the locomotives continued to be an important item on the non-electrified routes due to the lack of alternatives. The last example was finally retired in 1955 after the engines had been replaced by diesel locomotives.

General
Built1909-1913
ManufacturerGrafenstaden, Fives-Lille, Franco-Belge
Axle config2-10-0 (Decapod) 
Gauge4 ft 8 1/2 in (Standard gauge)
Dimensions and Weights
Length loco42 ft 0 1/8 in
Wheelbase28 ft 4 9/16 in
Rigid wheelbase20 ft 11 15/16 in
Total wheelbase49 ft 10 13/16 in
Empty weight169,094 lbs
Service weight187,834 lbs
Adhesive weight171,299 lbs
Total weight253,421 lbs
Axle load34,260 lbs
Water capacity3,170 us gal
Fuel capacitycoal
Boiler
Grate area40.9 sq ft
Firebox area162.5 sq ft
Tube heating area2,003.2 sq ft
Evaporative heating area2,165.7 sq ft
Superheater area596.3 sq ft
Total heating area2,762 sq ft
Power Plant
Driver diameter55.1 in
Boiler pressure232 psi
Expansion typecompound
Cylindersfour, HP: 18 1/8 x 26 in
and LP: 24 7/16 x 25 9/16 in
Power
Power sourcesteam
Estimated power1,609 hp (1,200 kW)
Optimal speed26 mph
Top speed34 mph
Starting effort39,133 lbf
with start valve46,960 lbf
Calculated Values
steam locomotive
freight
De Glehn compound
last changed: 02/2022
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